annonfightsback
2 months ago
To_avoid_fake_voting_and_troll_hate_fighting
Write your Ideas how to avoid
CreativeArts
2 months ago
To_avoid_fake_voting_and_troll_hate_fighting
Kind of hard to fight randoms take like and hate on everything... I got tired of one day having +1 votes on about 20 or 30 cards on my first page or two. Then a little while later, -1 votes on the same damn cards... this has happen several times
now I'm sick of it... You know some of those cards I SPENT some real time making them!! By no way are my cards that good, or best but I'm sick of this... I hope other people don't have to deal with crap too much.... Well, I won't have to deal with it any more... I removed all my cards....
BakaD
2 months ago
As always, I regret.
Score faking can't be proven, as in we don't know WHO did it. A random anon could fake a negative OR positive score, just to kick up drama. So we can't punish that. So how do we deal with these trolls? Ignore them. But some people don't care about trolls, and have just as much fun annoying them.

So WE really can't do anything. Actual changes that will help are removing anon's ability to edit tags and upload images. Possibly their ability to adjust score and comment as well. Then maybe require an email to make an account. That'll put a band-aid on things. Won't stop it, but it'll help.
And we need some standard that the site is moderated by. With actual moderators. I can't even tell if we HAVE those.
annonfightsback
2 months ago
Thanks for the comments.I am sorry to hear your disappointments CreativeArts.I share your feeling.

And thanks for your good advise BakaD .It makes lot sense.

I would like to hear from the annons who does this things why they do it . They can write here with annon account. Like mine.it doesn't take long.
I am the one of the annon trying teach lesson with their own methods ( with their own poison ) I figured out Who they are worse one has multiple popular account and very active on trolling. I think it's working now they are less annoying to other people . I hope all the good creators comes back, and back me up with this .
Quorwyf
2 months ago
Its a shame that you pulled your gallery CA. I liked a number of your cards and I was planning on coming back to your gallery to grab them later.

We do seem to have at least one moderator, illusioncards.

Unfortunately moderation seems to be the only thing he can do according to this quote from the tagging sticky:

"I can't make any changes to the functionality of the site. If you really want this bug to be fixed, send an email to the booru.org staff [staff@booru.org], I wouldn't get my hopes up though."

So don't expect anons to be limited or any of those other change ideas that get tossed about.

also, this from helpful_forum_guy, same sticky

"This board is essentially a stripped down version of the Gelbooru image board. But functionally speaking anything that goes there will apply here (i.e. allowing anonymous users to tag and comment - although on Gelbooru you can actually upvote/downvote individual comments). Bad tagging, anonymous or otherwise, is a problem there as well - just on a much much MUCH bigger scale (they have 3+ million images to correctly tag whereas we only have 4000+). I think we have it fairly good on the last issue. ;)"
selene
2 months ago
It is what it is
It's as Quorwyf said. At this point we either take it or leave it, and not everyone is ok ignoring or dealing with any form of abuse.

But if I may derail the topic slightly into a positive, how about sharing what you would like to see from a card sharing website?
SonOfTheDarkness
2 months ago
Well
I just took down the anon stash as an Anon, because of what happened to me and on other people on the 22-29th of September, took very little time to wreck that. If anonymous users are going to mess with people who put a name to a work, then this site shouldn't have this counterproductive crap.
BakaD
2 months ago
Why I recommended ignoring it.
I went through and fixed anon's stash. Only caught around 40 of them, around 10 have a nonsense tag. I've now removed the tag 'anon's_stash' for obvious reasons. The collection features models from some animes no one else did. I hope there isn't retaliation from anyone because of this.

Selene, all I want is to see more models from people, regardless of score. So I'd like it if people tagged their work properly and we all tried to maintain those tags.
Hyperdrive
2 months ago
It would be good
if we could deactivate the votes like yt lets you deact likes. or just use + and not minus. This way we can at least fight the fake minus. But thats software issues. Nothing the mod can do. Also it is a bit Kindergarden "everyone is a winner" philosophie.
But we really should have like a minimum effort rule. Obvious troll cards should be taken down. What is a troll card ? well, thats for a mod to decide.
Quorwyf
2 months ago
Are there other troll card types than the ones that look nothing like the card image?
BakaD
2 months ago
I'd say deliberately ugly, ill-proportioned, or spammed cards. But those are opinion based, so I think Hyperdrive is right that it's just the mod's decision.
Truthbomber
2 months ago
What this booru needs is a way to limit anon privilege to tag edits and uploads. Just requiring them to register is enough to discourage some potential trolls from tag vandalization and troll uploads. Leave comments as anonymous like with every other booru. Boorus, except for maybe safebooru, was never a place for carebears.

As for scores, I couldn't care less.
If people are so sensitive to a -1, they sure as hell won't survive the likes of reddit where -1 becomes a -50 the moment you decide to comment on it.
You are given 1 free vote which can push your card to +1. All it takes is 1 or 2 anons to push it down to -1. On the other hand, a power troll can push it down to -10 if they feel like it. If that was enough to drive people to deleting their entire library, they should probably not even be on the internet in the first place.
The moment someone complains, cries, or whines about a negative score, the trolls win.

If you want your card to achieve a high score, you tag them correctly so others can find it easily. Putting up shit like tag_me, beautiful, name_of_mod, opinions will only allow trolls to find your card. Why? Because they aren't looking for a particular card, they're looking for YOU.

What everyone should be combating is tagging and uploads because THOSE cause the real damages to the site.
Scores are a non issue. Just ignore them. This is the internet, expect to be torn apart.
Rude comments are a non issue. Just ignore them. Like above, expect to be torn apart.
Trolls will always win when you bring the issues into the comments.
Anon37564
2 months ago
wow, just wow
don't care about the score? really?

you talk some issue here, a really great issue and it's great...until you basically leave out the fake voting problem and declare you don't care about the scores

limit anon privilege to tag edits and uploads, ok fine but what about anon's ability to control the vote? just leave it out? so people can abuse it to fake their score? you have no reason to leave such broken system as 'anon vote' alone when you talk all high and mighty to reduce some of anon abuse on this broken system

"oh yea we should do something about this bad thing! but leave this one bad thing alone because i don't care... it's not like i'm going to abuse it or anything you know...yes it's because i don't care! believe me!"

this truthbomber sounds like fake voter himself
linua
2 months ago
i try to comment on http://honeyselectcap.booru.org as anon, its strange that i have to login first to be able to comment there. while on here anon have the same privilege as named account...
i agree that tagging, posted and adding note only available for named account, well at least for now until scoring can be removed too for anon.
dumbdonkeyselene
2 months ago
thick_skinned_donkey
@anon why so surprised? its probably the same thick_skinned_donkey,
that guy selene and truthbomber.

now that you mention it, its funny that most named-user here purposefully avoiding the score subject, theyre probably the same as well.
just remove anons ability to vote and we will see their cards score plummet.
seriously thick_skinned_donkey
selene
2 months ago
Impressive
Man, you sure like agreeing with yourself and trying to pass up as different people. And of course, gotta claim that for every shitty thing you do, someone else is the one doing it.

You're basically the kid of the group that farts and immediately points the finger to someone else. At least you're impressively consistent.

How about trying to be a little productive for a change and offer a suggestion here on how to improve things? Since scores are such a big deal for you, Would you like a plus and minus system with separate scores? No minus scores? Try contributing for once.
dumbdonkeyselene
2 months ago
Stunning
Contributing for once? HAH my name is truly underwhelming, the real ones is even DUMBER. Didnt I just said about removing anon vote? is that not contribution to you? seperate plus minus vote system when you dont say anything about removing anon permission to vote, isnt that just another system for you to ABUSE?
WHAT A THICK SKINNED DONKEY YOU ARE.

Among the user who fake their score here youre the most blatant ones, even ugly, shitty, furry, hags cards can be considered special taste, your shitty clone cards with copied faces from zeaska is fucking ordinary yet even the shittiest one have more votes than other same character creation. WTF? dont make me laugh HAHAHAHATOODAMNTHICKSKINNEDHAHA.
dumbdonkeyselene
2 months ago
FAKESHIT
Also dont act all polite and shit, not only you fake your score you also act like fake gentlemen. Dont think I didnt see this shit http://illusioncards.booru.org/i...t&s=view&id=18204
Good thing you didnt argue with me or else we cant see whos the asshole there.
selene
2 months ago
Get help
You need meds Fallen. Pronto.
dumbdonkeyselene
2 months ago
WTFLOL
HAHAHAHA the hell? I saw this shit too, you keep calling the guy fallen now you call me that too? do you see everyone as fallen? I dont fucking care though but youre the one who need meds bro.
You need the kind of drug that able to reduce your skin thickness, cure your delusion, purge your fallen syndrome, restore your eyesight, increase your intelect and turn you into human,

WHICH FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE BTW HAHAHAHA


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